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	<title>Comments on: Twitter is a &#8220;Stupid Network&#8221; (the good kind)</title>
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		<title>By: bodydetox</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5302</link>
		<dc:creator>bodydetox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter is very addictive. I like Twitter more than blogging. the messages are short and straight to the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter is very addictive. I like Twitter more than blogging. the messages are short and straight to the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Twitter #fixreplies and &#8220;intelligent&#8221; networks</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Twitter #fixreplies and &#8220;intelligent&#8221; networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few weeks ago, I said &#8220;Twitter is a “Stupid Network” (the good kind)&#8221;. It turns out I was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few weeks ago, I said &#8220;Twitter is a “Stupid Network” (the good kind)&#8221;. It turns out I was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Twitter #fixreplies fiasco is telling</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5269</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Twitter #fixreplies fiasco is telling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also represents another step toward violating the end-to-end prinicipal , something that has gone toward greatly increasing the value of the Twitter network and separating [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also represents another step toward violating the end-to-end prinicipal , something that has gone toward greatly increasing the value of the Twitter network and separating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sheep throwing on Twitter, redux</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5256</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sheep throwing on Twitter, redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the case of Twitter, because it is a mostly a &#8220;Stupid Network&#8221; (the good kind) Twitter doesn&#8217;t know which messages are bots or app-induced and which are genuine [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the case of Twitter, because it is a mostly a &#8220;Stupid Network&#8221; (the good kind) Twitter doesn&#8217;t know which messages are bots or app-induced and which are genuine [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MrBlog</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5248</link>
		<dc:creator>MrBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we essentially agree Aswath, but I would offer that Twitter is more stupid than not.  The &quot;d&quot; is a UI thing.  No packet contains that &quot;d&quot; at the beginning of a message.  I is detected by the UI the &quot;end application&quot; and not the &quot;network&quot;.  A &quot;direct&quot; message is an entirely different kind of packet (sort of the difference between unicast and multicast/broadcast).

On the other hand &quot;@&quot; and hashtags &quot;#&quot; are contained in the message body, as are urls, some of which get the equivalent of &quot;deep packet inspection&quot; by Twitter (although more by the end-apps than the &quot;network&quot;).  So in these intstances Twitter is an “intelligent” network.

It&#039;s never black and white (even with the Internet, as implemented in practice, as we have discussed many times) but I&#039;d say Twitter leans toward the end-to-end principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we essentially agree Aswath, but I would offer that Twitter is more stupid than not.  The &#8220;d&#8221; is a UI thing.  No packet contains that &#8220;d&#8221; at the beginning of a message.  I is detected by the UI the &#8220;end application&#8221; and not the &#8220;network&#8221;.  A &#8220;direct&#8221; message is an entirely different kind of packet (sort of the difference between unicast and multicast/broadcast).</p>
<p>On the other hand &#8220;@&#8221; and hashtags &#8220;#&#8221; are contained in the message body, as are urls, some of which get the equivalent of &#8220;deep packet inspection&#8221; by Twitter (although more by the end-apps than the &#8220;network&#8221;).  So in these intstances Twitter is an “intelligent” network.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s never black and white (even with the Internet, as implemented in practice, as we have discussed many times) but I&#8217;d say Twitter leans toward the end-to-end principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Aswath Rao</title>
		<link>http://mrblog.org/2009/04/16/twitter-is-a-stupid-network-the-good-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-5247</link>
		<dc:creator>Aswath Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:

I see why you would disregard Twitter becoming &quot;intelligent&quot;. Indeed it is not becoming, but it always was. Afterall, if I start my tweet with &quot;D&quot; it assumes that it is supposed to be a DM. In this respect it is not really end-to-end. Twitter server is most definitely in the middle.

I am not being argumentative. My contention is that &quot;Stupid Network&quot; paper is wrong in its claim that PSTN is not a stupid network. After call establishment, the switched network was transparent to the traffic. The only hitch was echo cancelers. Of course, this was circumvented with the modem signal turning them off. Once it was done, the data flowed truly end-to-end, albeit at a slow rate. That is why PSTN could support data/fax modems. Why it even supported devices that used different codecs. The problem David faced was that his project wanted all the phones to experience without requiring any changes to the end devices. In a way his project REQUIRED an intelligent network, but he faced a stupid network.

So I say PSTN is a stupid network and Twitter is NOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<p>I see why you would disregard Twitter becoming &#8220;intelligent&#8221;. Indeed it is not becoming, but it always was. Afterall, if I start my tweet with &#8220;D&#8221; it assumes that it is supposed to be a DM. In this respect it is not really end-to-end. Twitter server is most definitely in the middle.</p>
<p>I am not being argumentative. My contention is that &#8220;Stupid Network&#8221; paper is wrong in its claim that PSTN is not a stupid network. After call establishment, the switched network was transparent to the traffic. The only hitch was echo cancelers. Of course, this was circumvented with the modem signal turning them off. Once it was done, the data flowed truly end-to-end, albeit at a slow rate. That is why PSTN could support data/fax modems. Why it even supported devices that used different codecs. The problem David faced was that his project wanted all the phones to experience without requiring any changes to the end devices. In a way his project REQUIRED an intelligent network, but he faced a stupid network.</p>
<p>So I say PSTN is a stupid network and Twitter is NOT.</p>
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