Comments on: Symbian Signed Followup http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/ Mr Blog. Very technical, or silly, sometimes absurd. Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:31:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Adel http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-848 Adel Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:12:37 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=383#comment-848 I just know one thing .. the customers needs is the only thing that drive the business to a certain points .. i.e i cant put something in the market that has no need & push the people to take it !!!<br /> <br /> all the buyers & customers for s60 enjoy & need the applications to be installed in their cellphones .. & a huge % from them buy the s60 to use these applications it's like install Windows XP .. why not Linux ... so what symbian end to .. is just for it's sake not for ppl sake .. if they talk about the harmfull applications .. why not make something like system repair like in windows xp .. ??? or just they don need to put the easy solutions & complicate every thing to gain more money .. it's clear that they felt so powerful .. so they start to control .. but beware symbian .. this is the first step to the end .. to maintain the success is the goal .. not to be only successful . I just know one thing .. the customers needs is the only thing that drive the business to a certain points .. i.e i cant put something in the market that has no need & push the people to take it !!!

all the buyers & customers for s60 enjoy & need the applications to be installed in their cellphones .. & a huge % from them buy the s60 to use these applications it’s like install Windows XP .. why not Linux … so what symbian end to .. is just for it’s sake not for ppl sake .. if they talk about the harmfull applications .. why not make something like system repair like in windows xp .. ??? or just they don need to put the easy solutions & complicate every thing to gain more money .. it’s clear that they felt so powerful .. so they start to control .. but beware symbian .. this is the first step to the end .. to maintain the success is the goal .. not to be only successful .

]]> By: Don http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-847 Don Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:13:43 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=383#comment-847 I'm surprised this big symbian lock-up is happening with so little media attention.<br /> <br /> Even though ten thousands of people are struggling with this problem there is little (public) effort to convince Symbian or Nokia to change their tactics.<br /> <br /> Btw, Symbian is deleting negative posts about symbian signed from their forums.<br /> http://developer.symbian.com/forum/message.jspa?messageID=70988<br /> http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Ft2VKkZZDP0J:developer.symbian.com/forum/message.jspa%3FmessageID%3D70988+messageID%3D70988&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=nl&lr=lang_en%7Clang_nl I’m surprised this big symbian lock-up is happening with so little media attention.

Even though ten thousands of people are struggling with this problem there is little (public) effort to convince Symbian or Nokia to change their tactics.

Btw, Symbian is deleting negative posts about symbian signed from their forums.
http://developer.symbian.com/forum/message.jspa?messageID=70988
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Ft2VKkZZDP0J:developer.symbian.com/forum/message.jspa%3FmessageID%3D70988+messageID%3D70988&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=nl&lr=lang_en%7Clang_nl

]]> By: MrBlog http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-846 MrBlog Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:35:15 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=383#comment-846 John Doe, your argument is specious. It assumes that the signing overhead is worth the cost. RotateMe2.0 is a perfect counter-example. The available signing options are clearly not adequate for such application developers. And yet, the application is wanted enough that users will actually endure some of the hassle. When the best option as determined by both LEGITIMATE end-users and LEGITIMATE developers is to "abuse" the process, then the process is obviously BROKEN.<br /> <br /> Symbian came up with a bad idea and now it isn't working - so that's the fault of developers and end-users? No. Developers and end-users are the CUSTOMERS, the market, and the market decides what's right, not Symbian. It's time to fix the process, not fix the developers and end-users.<br /> <br /> If anybody is transferring the blame, it is Symbian, blaming their broken process on developers and end-users instead of providing solutions that satisfy their most important constituency - CUSTOMERS. John Doe, your argument is specious. It assumes that the signing overhead is worth the cost. RotateMe2.0 is a perfect counter-example. The available signing options are clearly not adequate for such application developers. And yet, the application is wanted enough that users will actually endure some of the hassle. When the best option as determined by both LEGITIMATE end-users and LEGITIMATE developers is to "abuse" the process, then the process is obviously BROKEN.

Symbian came up with a bad idea and now it isn’t working – so that’s the fault of developers and end-users? No. Developers and end-users are the CUSTOMERS, the market, and the market decides what’s right, not Symbian. It’s time to fix the process, not fix the developers and end-users.

If anybody is transferring the blame, it is Symbian, blaming their broken process on developers and end-users instead of providing solutions that satisfy their most important constituency – CUSTOMERS.

]]> By: John Doe http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-845 John Doe Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:14:30 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=383#comment-845 The developer of RotateMe2.0 is the only one that can and should have the application signed. This must happen before its distribution so that the problem is not simply transferred to the end-user. The developer of RotateMe2.0 is the only one that can and should have the application signed. This must happen before its distribution so that the problem is not simply transferred to the end-user.

]]> By: JackCandle http://mrblog.org/2008/02/29/symbian-signed-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-844 JackCandle Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:50:25 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=383#comment-844 Honestly, i just want rotateme so i can have the god damn functionality that this phone should have already....<br /> <br /> When symbian decided they wanted to only let people do what they wanted with their own property if they asked nicely and dicked around for half an hour instead of being able to use their machines without symbian holding their hand they should have bloody well prepared for people who, having no other choice, decided to go ahead and ask nicely. <br /> <br /> tl;dr: Get some more fucking bandwidth symbian or start letting people install what they want. Honestly, i just want rotateme so i can have the god damn functionality that this phone should have already….

When symbian decided they wanted to only let people do what they wanted with their own property if they asked nicely and dicked around for half an hour instead of being able to use their machines without symbian holding their hand they should have bloody well prepared for people who, having no other choice, decided to go ahead and ask nicely.

tl;dr: Get some more fucking bandwidth symbian or start letting people install what they want.

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