Comments on: VoIP is stagnant http://mrblog.org/2007/10/12/voip-is-stagnant/ Mr Blog. Very technical, or silly, sometimes absurd. Wed, 16 May 2012 18:11:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Ralph http://mrblog.org/2007/10/12/voip-is-stagnant/comment-page-1/#comment-768 Ralph Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:22:13 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=350#comment-768 people are leaving horizontal VoIP market people are leaving horizontal VoIP market

]]> By: MrBlog http://mrblog.org/2007/10/12/voip-is-stagnant/comment-page-1/#comment-767 MrBlog Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:18:23 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=350#comment-767 You guys both missed my point. This post isn't about Interconnect. It's about there being nothing new to say about VoIP. The Interconnect issue is simply an example of that. The things being debated today are basically the same as they were four or five years ago because so little has actually changed in this industry. You might say the same thing for all of "Web 2.0" and "social software" to a degree too I suppose, if not perhaps the Internet at large, but I think with VoIP it is downright palpable.<br /> <br /> I do not want this to turn into a debate about Interconnect, but one exception to your position Martin (which I agree with concurrently with what I'm saying, actually) is in the case of a basic call that is being dropped to a PSTN gateway anyway. In that case, dropping via ENUM/SIP if possible is a no-brainer and while it may not make feature interaction any better, it doesn't make it worse or "hold Skype back". You guys both missed my point. This post isn’t about Interconnect. It’s about there being nothing new to say about VoIP. The Interconnect issue is simply an example of that. The things being debated today are basically the same as they were four or five years ago because so little has actually changed in this industry. You might say the same thing for all of "Web 2.0" and "social software" to a degree too I suppose, if not perhaps the Internet at large, but I think with VoIP it is downright palpable.

I do not want this to turn into a debate about Interconnect, but one exception to your position Martin (which I agree with concurrently with what I’m saying, actually) is in the case of a basic call that is being dropped to a PSTN gateway anyway. In that case, dropping via ENUM/SIP if possible is a no-brainer and while it may not make feature interaction any better, it doesn’t make it worse or "hold Skype back".

]]> By: Alok http://mrblog.org/2007/10/12/voip-is-stagnant/comment-page-1/#comment-766 Alok Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:10:03 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=350#comment-766 Interconnect was an issue even for the traditional phone companies. There is no regulator for VoIP and hence disputes in this area will take its own sweet time to be resolved. Interconnect was an issue even for the traditional phone companies. There is no regulator for VoIP and hence disputes in this area will take its own sweet time to be resolved.

]]> By: Martin Geddes http://mrblog.org/2007/10/12/voip-is-stagnant/comment-page-1/#comment-765 Martin Geddes Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:51:12 +0000 http://mrblog.televolution.net/?p=350#comment-765 OK, time to call the bottom of the Trough of Disillusionment, so steal Gartner's phrasing.<br /> <br /> Here's what I think's happening. We're moving from "horizontal VoIP" to "vertical VoIP". The opportunity increasingly lies in building VoIP into bigger apps and services that solve specific problems for specific user communities. There is no "PSTN 2.0" and interoperability isn't going to happen because it _cannot_ happen; each of these services is tailored to solve a particular user problem and the features and interaction models are almost by definition going to be incompatible. What does "Skype me" become as a presence feature in MSN, let along a more exotic setting?<br /> <br /> For PhoneGnome, maybe the next steps/questions are: how can I integrate this into a social networking service? and who might need a landline "better voice" application to solve their vertical logistics/healthcare/education/etc need? OK, time to call the bottom of the Trough of Disillusionment, so steal Gartner’s phrasing.

Here’s what I think’s happening. We’re moving from "horizontal VoIP" to "vertical VoIP". The opportunity increasingly lies in building VoIP into bigger apps and services that solve specific problems for specific user communities. There is no "PSTN 2.0" and interoperability isn’t going to happen because it _cannot_ happen; each of these services is tailored to solve a particular user problem and the features and interaction models are almost by definition going to be incompatible. What does "Skype me" become as a presence feature in MSN, let along a more exotic setting?

For PhoneGnome, maybe the next steps/questions are: how can I integrate this into a social networking service? and who might need a landline "better voice" application to solve their vertical logistics/healthcare/education/etc need?

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